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Matthew 5:17-18 by Supyloco Matthew 5:17-18 by Supyloco
So you know how many Christians talk about how the Old Testament's rituals don't count? Jesus calls bullshit on that. This quote is taken from the bible in the New Testament and the location is in the title. So the reason I mention this because Christians use "The Old Testament don't count" to justify eating Shrimp, working on Saturday, Wearing sweaters, Making oranges, Shaving, Getting Jesus Tattoos, and touching a piece of pork. All those things are punishable by death in the bible. And look this wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that they always go to Leviticus to justify hating gays. You can't have both. You can't say the old book doesn't count but justify your hate in the old book. You know Slavery at one point was being justified because it was in the bible. That's true as well. Slavery is never condemned in the bible. So I think 80% of the country should be executed for disobeying one law of Leviticus. All those things are punishable by death.
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Hrodulf Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
What is "making oranges"
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Supyloco Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2013
Oranges are a hybrid fruit, so engineering them would be against YHWH's law.
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Hrodulf Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013
I didn't know that.
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Deborah-Valentine Featured By Owner May 11, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I have no imaginary friend in the sky, and glad of it....
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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 16, 2012
The thing is that it's not relevant whether the bible is real or not. It's whether it's moral.
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner May 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
well explained :thumbsup:

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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 10, 2012
Thanks
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner May 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:heart:
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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 16, 2012
Maybe we can get in the back and do some sinful things together. In that we'll eat shrimp.
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner May 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you for the invitation, but I'm vegeterian, so it is a kind of "sin" by decision for me, what about spagetti, or a "flying spagetti monster" ?
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Supyloco Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2012
Maybe. Either way we're going to hell.
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
if there is a hell, maybe, maybe not. But not our decision, not even the decision of religious leaders, even if they would like to decide such things...
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Supyloco Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2012
True. I'll be quite honest thought. When I was a Christian, I was taught hell never existed since it really was a pagan myth made by Catholics.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner May 8, 2012
Thank you. I've been looking for the quote; I usually pull it when xtians go "it's all new testament baby, herp derp".
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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 10, 2012
Christians are a bunch of hypocrites.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner May 10, 2012
A little bit of intellectual dishonesty is required if you want to make these beliefs work.
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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 16, 2012
It's not even that. My problem with the bible is not whether it's real or not. It's whether it's moral.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner May 17, 2012
It isn't, really.
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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 17, 2012
No it isn't. And not in a subtle way but in a blatantly obvious way.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner May 17, 2012
You'd have to be raised to think it wasn't to propagate it as moral.
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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 17, 2012
I grew up Christian. I'm amazed I believed this bullshit
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TharenStorm Featured By Owner May 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not one to usually put my two cents into this kind of thing and I'm no expert in any religion's beliefs either but, I think I'll give this one a try. (JSYK I use an Old King James Bible so everything is in Shakespearean English and I'm not disagreeing with supyloco here as there sadly are many people that do the things he has said.)

The verse above, Matthew 5:17-18, states: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
This simply means that he is not wanting to completely get rid of everything, but to set the things that are wrong back right. Not everything of the old law is wrong, yet there are some parts that are. Also, the prophecies about the Messiah are part of the Law, which, if one recalls, the old prophets claimed that Messiah would come as a great king with all his power. Yet, he came as a poor carpenter instead. However, this part of the Law is not wrong as the Messiah is meant to come to this world in that manner, its just the second time around that it happens which is when all heaven and earth passes away.

Some of the old rituals do still count as well, such as Passover for example which, whether the average Christian believes it or not, they do celebrate through the Last Supper that just so happened to be a Passover Seder.

Continuing on to explain other things:
Luke 14:5: "And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?"
It is perfectly fine to work on the sabbath, whether one celebrate they're sabbath on a Saturday or Sunday, as long as it is for a good cause.

Matthew 15:11: "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."
It doesn't matter what you eat, it matters what you say and do. Of course this also would include drinking, smoking and other things. However, some of these things can cause you to lose control of yourself and you'll end up saying and/or doing things that would be less than proper.(All things in moderation I suppose.)

Genisis 1:29: "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
So I'm not sure where the oranges thing came from, since the old book says they are for us. Of course this also states that "every herb bearing seed" is is ours as well. Which would mean hemp and other such herbs are meant for us to use.(Though in a way that would be beneficial and, again, in moderation.)

1 Samuel 16:7: "But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart."
Whether one shaves or not does not matter nor does it matter what one wears and so forth. This of course comes after Leviticus 19:28 which speaks against cutting yourself and getting tattoos, yet is still in the old book.

Though the Bible never says anything directly against slavery, it has constant mentions of being respectful and caring toward others. One example: Mark 12:31: "And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."
Slavery is in no way respectful or caring and shows no form of love. This also applies to anyone who has any form of difference from yourself. This includes sexual preference, religious/political/moral beliefs, color of skin/eyes/hair/etc., so on and so forth.

Now, one must remember that in any belief in general, religious, political, or moral, humanity is involved and anything that humanity, flawed as it is, is involved in becomes flawed as well. So regardless of what God, Allah, Buddha, Shiva or any other deity may supposedly send to whatever holy man/woman does not mean that this person will put forward that same information or that the person claiming whatever deity said something to them may be telling the truth.

Also, just because one group of people believe one thing and claim the same title as any other group, does not mean that all those who claim that same title believe the exact same way. Just because the Westboro Baptists claim God hates the world or Al Qaeda claims that Allah wishes the death of all infidels, doesn't mean the all Christians and Muslims believe that way.

Lastly(simply to state this), most all systems of belief have something good to offer. Buddhism has a belief that states there is no right or wrong path in life, just many ways to the same end. Which can be taken to mean that no matter how one believes, it does not make them wrong or evil. Christianity has a verse that says "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."(2 Timothy 2:15) One can take that to only be about the Bible, but I take it to be about all truth and not to simple confine yourself to one mode of thought or believe but to study and try to understand all others.

I hope I made some kind of sense there.(Even if I may have gone of topic.) If not, I'm very sorry.^^; And just to restate this, I am not an expert in any form of belief, so everything here is simple my own particular views as the possibly overly hopeless romantic dreamer that I am.^^;
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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 3, 2012
Well the Oranges was mentioned since Oranges aren't a natural fruit. It's a hybrid. So it required mixing which is forbidden in Leviticus. Also Slavery laws in the bible are more for the slave than the master. Actually the Westboro Baptist Church is correct about how God hates gay people. I mean I disagree but they are right about how this Yahweh fellow feels about them. It's like people make excuses for religion. Mormons say that they no longer practice Polygamy and anyone who does is an extremist. But they are lying to themselves. Yahweh didn't tell them to stop marrying multiple people, their leadership did. Polygamy is a very much of part of Islam, LDS, Judaism, and Christianity. Just because a couple people changed it doesn't mean anything really changed.
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TharenStorm Featured By Owner May 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Got to say I didn't know that about oranges. Though, the forbidding of them still makes about as much since as not combining linen and wool. Still, if they wish to hold to such a believe, that is their business.

Anyway, to be fair, such claims about God(Yahweh) are all derived from the writings and words of people whatever time ago and as I've said before, just because a person may claim whatever deity said whatever thing doesn't mean that it's true. Until God him/her/it-self sends their voice booming through the entire world for all to hear(not just one or two people at a time) there is always room for humanity to make any kind of claim about what God does and does not hate.

I admit that this can count as me making an excuse for religion. However, I don't believe religion itself is what's really at fault, but those who use it as an excuse or tool for hatred. Which any form of belief, not just in religion, can be used to incite hate toward anyone and anything. Even Deism and Atheism can be used for hate.

It also, doesn't really matter what religious(or anti-religious) group one claims. It matters what the person them self believes and does personally.
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Supyloco Featured By Owner May 16, 2012
Right. My main problem with religion is the religious. But to be quite honest. The Abrahamic faiths are very violent and anti-woman.
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